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Monday, January 24, 2022

Who knows in deep sleep - clarification on the Sakshi?


 

Question: In deep sleep there is absence of the mind, absence of the subject-object duality, absence of the knower, the pramata. Yet when we wake up, we say ‘I slept well, I knew nothing’ – so who knows this, as consciousness is not a pramata and there is absence of mind in deep sleep.

Swami Brahmavidananda (of Mumbai) answers: You are struggling with this as you are trying to categorize it.

When the sakshi (witness consciousness) functions through the mind, it is called as the pramata or the knower. The  sakshi with reference to itself is atma- sat-cit-ananda…. (ever-present, changeless, timeless, infinite consciousness-being). The atma or sakshi is present in deep sleep. Sakshi is the term given to atma with reference to the fact that it illumines everything, witnesses everything – yet it does not record. Recording, memory is the function of the mind.  In deep sleep the mind is asleep, but because mind is there is potential condition, subtle vrittis (thoughts) are there. On waking when the pramata is up, the memory of witnessing of the deep sleep experience is there in the mind because of the extremely subtle vrittis present in deep sleep. Therefore the witnessing of the sakshi in deep sleep is connected with the waking pramata ( the knower)  and we say I slept very well.

So in deep sleep, the pramata is asleep, yet the sakshi is there. As mentioned earlier, Sakshi is the term given to atma (the Self) with reference to the fact that it illumines everything.

Questioner: Thank you